this is obviously a really important moment in obama's life. he keeps that picture close by. and i think it was a matter of some sadness that he didn't manage to meet mandela when he became president, given that he's the first black american president. >> right now, just to make it clear, the president of brazil, is having her remarks translated. we're at the top of the hour, we are, of course, covering the memorial for nelson mandela in south africa. we just heard comments from the u.s. president barack obama. when he used the word ebuntu, a south african term that means i am because you are, that speaks to the interconnectedness nelson mandela was all about, the crowd went wild. we're discussing here, the impact that a message from a black president to this crowd here had in this stadium but also back home as well. >> absolutely. i think when we talk about the relationship the obamas have had with mandela, it wasn't as personal as the relationship mandela had with the clintons. when i spoke to mrs. obama last year, he couldn't come, so he sent his family ahead. it was quite